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Joe Quinn's avatar

Cancel culture is a joke a long as Nike is still thriving.

Maybe what happened to you serves as a filter so you don't have to waste your time pandering your art to spoiled brats -- a bunch of overgrown rich kids who demand the moral high ground in addition to already having every other privilege, and who can't tell the difference between abuse and shit that happens to everyone when they leave the proverbial womb. Let them suffocate in there. Good riddance.

You are a natural aristocrat.

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Jack Torrance's avatar

Glad you reposted this because I don't think I would've seen it otherwise. Glad to see that I'm not the only one fascinated with Tyson in a variety of ways.

I think Tyson's ability to avoid "cancellation" as it were is simply the objective nature of sports v the subjective nature of art. The personal is inextricably linked to the creation of art, so the alleged actions of the artist are believed by the puritans to be present in the work itself. If I say I still enjoy Marilyn Manson or Daughters or whoever, that is ultimately a question and reflection of taste, and the operating logic has been that allegations of sexual misconduct place one outside the boundaries of good taste. Whatever subjective enjoyment you get from the art should be spoiled by that information, and if it isn't the assertion is that you're endorsing the alleged actins. Liking the work is perceived as a reflection of your values.

Conversely Tyson or Kobe or any of the sports stars who find themselves in these situations, people's support of them is generally based around objective achievement and not some subjective resonance with their endlessly interpretable work, though obviously there's a parasocial element. There's no morality in sport performance, there's simply winners and losers. While obviously Tyson and Kobe had personal brands they built and lost aspects of depending on personal actions, the bedrock of their public personas is that they are indisputably the best athletes in their respective field. "Well he's a bad person that did x" sort of falls apart when the answer is "well what does that have to do with the number of championships he's won?" The question of "how can you support this person" is quickly answered with "because they win and I like winners."

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